Maui Windsurfing
Vela Windsurf Resorts wind reports accommodations equipment lessons kitesurfing staff tips and facts other activities got kids? feedback photos map WHAT TO BRING: There are a few things we don't want you to forget. Here are two lists: Airline tickets The enclosed Vela vouchers for car, condo, and/or equipment (you need to exchange these for services) Current driver's license and major credit card in name of rental car driver (you will need these to rent your car) Extra spending money (see "CASH/CREDIT CARDS" below) Paperback books for flights and evenings (The following items are all available in wonderful variety on Maui; you may want to pack light and roomy and bring home some island-grown gear.) We do recommend you bring: shorty wetsuit and/or thermal rashguard, booties, harness Gloves to prevent blisters while sailing 100% UV sunglasses w/ eyeglass retainer (floating) Waterproof sunscreen lotion (oil makes board slippery) Beach towel (condo towels just don't do the job) Helmet and/or PFD, if desired. Light jacket/windbreaker To avoid the inconvenience of lost luggage, we recommend that you pack light enough to carry on your luggage. Check with your airline for carry on restrictions. At the least, carry on all those items that you would need to fully enjoy your first few days. If you are on a "Complete Rig" package, your package includes use of a complete board and rig, including two sails (w/ correct masts). This easily handles the needs of most people. Many people who have brought some of their own sails have reported that they stayed in their bags the whole trip. Also, the airlines can charge you up to $150 each way if they know you are checking "windsurfing equipment". However, you may feel you want to bring one or two small sails with you and choose the larger ones from Vela Maui so that you will have other sails at your disposal while at the beach. Have any questions about odd sails, etc? Feel free to call Vela Maui before you go. PACKING FOR THE WEATHER : Maui is a lush tropical destination. The rain that produces the lush vegetation is more frequent in the winter months, so expect it to be a little wetter and somewhat cooler in winter, drier and a bit warmer in summer. Generally it will be in the mid-80's during the day and slightly cooler at night. In the "Upcountry" area or up on the rim of Haleakala crater, it can be much cooler. Bring a light jacket for evenings and a very warm one if you plan on catching the spectacular sunrise on top of Haleakala. People dress casually on the island. Only in some of the most expensive restaurants would a coat or dress be expected. You might want to leave a little space in your luggage for clothing acquired in Maui; some people consider Maui a paradise for shopping as well. CASH/CREDIT CARDS: We recommend that you bring some cash, travelers checks and a major credit card. The Maui Windsurf Company will accept credit cards for any additional services or goods you may want to purchase on-site. Most establishments on the island accept major credit cards. We suggest you bring extra cash or traveler's checks of at least $50 per person per day of stay. You may go home with most of it, but if you want it, you'll have it. Documents CHECK YOUR DOCUMENTS NOW for accuracy and then RECONFIRM ALL FLIGHT TIMES with your airline before you go to the airport. If your flight arrival time is different than the "time" printed on your green Dollar Rent-a-Car voucher, please call Dollar at 800-367-7006 and update your reservation, noting date, time and the name of the Dollar agent on your corrected voucher. (Dollar will automatically cancel your reservation if your car is not picked up within two hours of this time.) UPON ARRIVAL AT MAUI'S KAHULUI AIRPORT : Unless you've carried on all your luggage, the driver indicated on your Dollar Rent-a-Car voucher should catch the Dollar shuttle vehicle to Dollar's base yard. Any others in your party can collect checked luggage and be ready to be picked up by the driver in your party. The Dollar desk will be open until 10:00 PM. If you are renting a vehicle through Vela Maui, see notes below. DOLLAR RENT-A-CAR: Dollar will offer collision damage and personal injury insurance at a significant additional daily rate. We recommend you check with your own car insurer before leaving for Maui; your policy may already include such coverage. Regardless, as is standard with all rental car companies, Dollar will require a signed, blank imprint of your credit card or a cash deposit. Depending on your situation, there may be some other charges not payable in advance of the return of your car. Dollar has a minimum driver age of 25 (or additional $15 plus tax per day for ages 21-24) and additional drivers are $6 per day. Dollar rents on a 24-hour basis and if you are keeping your car an hour or so later than the time on the clock that you picked it up, you will owe them an additional $10-$12 an hour, which is cheaper than us charging you a full additional day's rental. If your departure time is several hours later than your arrival time, check your car voucher to make sure the "DROP-OFF" date is one day later than you are actually leaving. We should have included an additional day's rental in your package, but only if we know what your flight times are. You should find your car full of gas and relatively clean. If you return it otherwise there may be additional gas or cleaning fees (see: RETURNING YOUR DOLLAR RENTAL CAR). DOLLAR WILL CHARGE YOU A $3/DAY STATE IMPOSED SURCHARGE and a 7.5% AIRPORT RECOVERY Tax. . Dollar will be glad to provide directions to your accommodations and Vela Maui (located within Neil Pryde Maui - hours 8:30 am to 5:00 PM), where you will pick up your racks and equipment. Vela Maui / Neil Pryde Van Rental: You can rent a van from Neil Pryde as part of you package. Call your Vela Agent for Vela Van pickup instructions at least 1week prior to arrival. GETTING TO VELA MAUI : From the airport, stay straight on Keolani Pl (it will become Dairy Rd.) Follow the signs to Lahaina and Kihei, Cross the Haleakela Hwy and the Hana Hwy (2 lights). Make the first right on Alamaha St. The next street is Papa Pl, turn right. Vela Maui is located inside the Neil Pryde Maui retail shop, located at the corner of Papa and the Hana Hwy. the address is 400 Hana Hwy. If you arrive after 5:00 pm you can pick up your equipment the following morning. Prepaid lessons and equipment are not refundable after your scheduled arrival date. Vela's Wind Warranty works differently on Maui; check with Vela Maui about "Lay Day" and "Return-trip Credit" details before checking out equipment. CHECKING INTO YOUR ACCOMMODATIONS: See the instructions on your document cover letter (the one with your address on it). This will help you in getting to your accommodations and checking in. In this letter you will also find a number to call if you need to talk to someone about your condo while on the island. Your condo management company is always available to help make your vacation an enjoyable one. If the plumbing plugs up, the toaster doesn't work, etc., call them immediately. It's their job to see that it gets fixed now. Then go enjoy Maui. Chances are good it will be fixed by the time you get back from sailing. If not, stay in communication with them. We have chosen the best, most responsive condo management companies on the island. You are in good hands. Click here for North Shore Directions. LESSONS : Alan Cadiz and his staff of HST instructors have been setting the standards in windsurfing instruction since 1985. Their instructors' high level of skill allows them to sail right next to you on the water, giving you the confidence and the coaching you need to excel quickly. Lessons are taught at Kanaha, Kihei, and from private beachfront locations along Maui's North shore. HST offers beginner through advanced, group and private lessons including jibing and wave sailing. As all lessons are by appointment only, reservations are recommended as far in advance as possible. If you have prepaid for lessons or would now like to plan lessons, please call the HST staff at 800-YOU-JIBE (968-5423) to arrange your schedule directly. OTHER ACTIVITIES AVAILABLE : Maui has one of the widest selection of activities of any vacation destination in the world. Good snorkeling and diving trips leave daily from nearby Maalaea Harbor. Hiking, horseback riding and exciting downhill bicycle excursions are available on the slopes of the mighty volcano Haleakala. Shopping is legendary. Your new friends at The Maui Windsurf Company know the best deals and operators and can send you in the right direction. RESTAURANTS: The staff at Vela Maui also are your best source of information about restaurants and nightlife. They have hosted many, many sailors on Maui and are getting constant feedback about what's happening where. SOME IMPORTANT THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT LEAVING MAUI LEAVING YOUR ACCOMMODATIONS: Please respect the checkout time posted in your unit. If you have a late flight out of Maui, you might be able to check out of your unit later in the day. When you arrive, or at least several days before you leave, check with the property management company directly (NOT THE FRONT DESK) about this. Get the name of the person who says OK and how late is OK. If someone happens to be checking in the same day you are leaving, it will not be possible to stay late because your unit must be made ready for them; however, with advance notice, arrangements can often be made. If not, Kanaha Beach Park has freshwater showers so you can still play all day and not have to fly home sandy or salty. [Should an emergency necessitate a return home earlier than your scheduled date, we will do all we can to get refunds for you. Standard condo and car cancellation fees usually exceed any balance left, but property management companies are often quite understanding of emergencies. To assist us in this, you must make sure you get written verification of check-out date from the front desk and also from The Maui Windsurf Company and Dollar Rent-a-Car.] RETURNING YOUR EQUIPMENT : Be aware of The Vela Maui opening and closing times - 9:00 - 6:00. If you are not planning on sailing the day you leave, you may find it easier to return equipment the afternoon before, rather than in the morning. RETURNING YOUR DOLLAR RENTAL CAR: Dollar has to get your car ready for someone else to use. If you return it low on gas or really dirty and full of sand, they will charge you. There are gas stations on your way back into Kahalui. If you are the rare type to really trash a car, Dolphin Car Wash at 156 Wakea has vacuums. If you're concerned about this, clarify with Dollar their policies before taking the vehicle. Leave plenty of time to drop off your equipment, gas your car, check it in, and catch the shuttle to the airport. AT THE KAHALUI AIRPORT: You will have to pass agricultural inspection. Prepackaged fruit sold specifically to be taken back to the mainland is usually OK. Fruit bought in the supermarkets to be consumed on Maui is generally not allowed off the island. SAILING BEACHES (please note: By county ordinance there is no sailing in Maui before 11:00am. This is out of respect for other water users, surfers and fishermen.) NORTHSHORE BEACHES - The northshore beaches stretch from kite beach (lower Kanaha) all the way to Hookipa at the eastern end. Conditions range from fun flat water and chop to the ultimate wave sailing at Hookipa. Depending on surf conditions and wind you will be able to find a spot that is suitable for your taste. Kanaha Beach Park - Located very near Kahalui Airport , Kanaha consists of several shallow sandy coves along the eastern end of Kahalui Bay on the North Shore. Recommended Abilities: Beginner in the most eastern cove through advanced in the most western cove and beyond the reef. Water and Wind: A reef 400 yards offshore means flat water in summer and larger chop in winter. On the reef there are large waves in winter, early spring and fall. Smaller waves prevail in summer with rolling swell outside. Wind picks up from light in the morning, to strong in the afternoon. Spreckelsville Beach - Located 4 miles east of Kanaha, Sprecklesville's quality surf conditions draw some of the best sailors on the island. Obtain directions from the rental shop. Recommended ability: Intermediate to advanced surfsailor. Wind and Water: Same sideshore, consistent trade winds as Kanaha, only a little stronger. Sprecklesville reef produces some excellent conditions to hone your skills for the next step up.... Hookipa Beach Park - Hookipa is located 2 miles east of Paia on the Hana Highway just past Mama's Fish House Restaurant. The tiny beach, tucked in a cove below, serves as a launch for the premier wave venue in the world. Sail only if you are an expert wavesailor, or watch the best from the bluff. KIHEI BEACHES - These narrow, palm fringed beaches stretch from Maalaea Bay through the beach town of Kihei, always accessible off N. Kihei Road. Sailing areas range from beginner, with sheltered side-offshore wind conditions directly in front of the Sugar Beach Condominium Property, to advanced north of the Sugar Beach area. Pavilions (Maipoina Oe Lau Beach Park ) - Just north of Kihei off N. Kihei Road, this site really cooks when the winds shift to the north (a more frequent condition in winter) and accelerate through the valley at speeds up to 30 mph. Less than a mile south of Pavilions is Ka Ono Ulu Beach Park below. Ka Ono Ulu Beach Park - the same conditions but a rocky launch and less sailors. For both... Recommended Ability : Intermediate to advanced sailors Water and Wind : Flat with some chop. 15 to 30 mph blowing side-onshore in a northerly and side-offshore during normal tradewind conditions. Sugar Beach - Directly in front of Sugar Beach Condominiums in the lee of the buildings you'll find lower velocity side-offshore wind. It is possible for beginners to sail here, although Kanaha is more ideal. A ten minute walk up the beach is "Speed Beach" where offshore winds up to 30 mph, particularly in a northerly, create a speed slalom heaven with flat water conditions. Recommended Ability : Beginner in front of resort, intermediate to advanced at Speed Beach. Water and Wind : Flat close-in. Swell and chop in bay. Up to 30 mph blowing offshore at Speed Beach. NORTH SHORE MAUI DIRECTIONS- Stable Road (Kanaha/Spreckelsville) Properties: From the Kahului Airport turn left onto Hana Highway (Route 36) east towards Paia Town. From the Haleakala Hwy Intersection (traffic light) drive exactly 1.4 miles and turn left onto Stable Road (sorry no street sign) follow the road for about 1 mile. Aina Lani - 584 "D" and "E" Stable Rd. (808-877-5816) North Shore Beach House - 584 "B" Stable Rd. (808-572-9269) property management Tradewind Beach House - 582 Stable Rd (808-572-9269) property management Ray's Friendly Beach - 581 Stable Rd. (808-877-2104) Secret Beach - 584 "A" Stable Rd. (808-572-9269) property management Spreckelsville Properties: From the Kahului Airport, turn left onto Hana Highway (Route 36) East towards the town of Paia. About two miles before Paia, you will pass Kaunoa Senior Center. The next left is Nonohe. Turn left and continue until it intersects with Paani Place. Turn left onto Paani and continue until it dead-ends at the Sugar Cove Condominiums. Windsurf Bungalow is the last house on the right just before the gate entrance into Sugar Cove. Nellie's Windsurf Bungalow - 316 Paani Place (808-572-9269) property management Paia Properties: From the Kahului Airport, turn left onto Hana Highway (Route 36) East towards the town of Paia. There is only one signal in the town of Paia at Baldwin Ave. Cross the intersection and make a left into the driveway between the Minute Stop and Simmer Sports. Nellie's Surf Bungalows - 127 Hana Highway (808-572-9269) property management Haiku Properties: From the Kahului Airport, turn left onto Hana Highway (Route 36) East towards the town of Paia. Continue straight on Hana Highway through Paia. Turn right on Haiku Rd. Make the next right onto Apuwai. Hale Maliko - 166 Apuwai St. (808-575-5172) Vela Maui - (800) 321-7443, is located in the Neil Pryde Maui shop at 400 Hana Hwy. Any questions? Feel free to call us toll free at 800-223-5443. To get fast answers while on Maui, contact the Vela Maui staff - (800) 321-7443. Updated 07/2004 Vela Windsurf Resorts . 1-800-223-5443 . info@velawindsurf.com 108 Whispering Pines Drive . Suite 245 . Scotts Valley, CA 95066 . All rights reserved Vela Resorts, Inc. 2004 web site design by McLeod Creative Hawaiian girl. 1.1 RaceWikijunior/Kiki character - Meta Wikijunior/Kiki character From Meta < Wikijunior Jump to: navigation , search This page is about creating a recurrent character for the Wikijunior project. For actual designs, see: Wikijunior/Kiki character/Designs About Wikijunior: A while ago, the Beck Foundation approached the Wikimedia Foundation, inquiring about whether we would be able to use our resources to develop educational material for a younger audience. We responded that we would be interested in such a project, and that our materials can be adapted for children. A proposal was sent, and we received a small grant to develop the project (see October 16, 2004 board meeting ). Thus was born Wikijunior. For more information see the project's page: Wikijunior here on meta and the actual project being developped here on wikibooks. Contents 1 Hawaiian girl. 1.1 Race 1.2 Species 2 Is Kiki age appropriate? 3 Kiki is a nude model 3.1 How about Niki? 4 What about 2 characters? 5 Kiki Designs [ edit ] Hawaiian girl. Oooh, yea I like that idea! -- Solitude 09:07, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC) Me too. She should be a Hawaiian girl. This spelling is particlularly easy to remember. Theresa knott Ever heard of Dora the Explorer? Ludraman - talk to me! 14:32, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC) Dora is for preschoolers, and is a preschooler; this magazine is for "tweens", Kiki will be a tween/teen. Also, Dora is Hispanic. Granted, there is Lilo of Lilo and Stitch (www.liloandstitch.com), but as long as Kiki isn't too much of an outright non-conformist and/or short and pudgy, we'll be fine. We want to make sure she doesn't conform too much, so that we end up encouraging kids that's its great to be themselves. -- user:zanimum My point is that Dora is a girl who goes exploring with her audience for (semi) educational purposes. This is what our Kiki will be doing. I'm not a huge fan of the whole Kiki idea, though, as I think it works better for a younger audience, and might seem demeaning to tweens. Ludraman - talk to me! 18:58, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC) Unlike Dora, Kiki wouldn't be throughout. That would require the thing to be a comic, which is way too intensive, and not good for information. She could appear occasionally just to deliver facts to the slighty younger part of the audience (that way we don't have educational materials where tigers don't talk), or we could have a say six page adventure, unlike Dora, the characters would have personality, the plot wouldn't be as predictable structured, and the "fourth wall" wouldn't be broken. Plus, we should still consider it as an alternative title , even if not a character. -- user:zanimum Say, what if the main character is speaking animal (like monkeys, parrots, etc.) instead of girls? I think kids are more interested in animals than girls. 202.65.112.42 04:06, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC) Well that was kinda my idea when I did the Wikijunior draft page layout a tiger for the big cat look, an alien for the solar sytem book. But some topics don't easily lends themselves to an obvious character like that. In those cases a girl might be very helpful. Also have one character appearing maybe once on every book/magazine will add branding to them. Children will easily see that these are all part of one series even though the topics may be wildly different. Theresa knott 13:10, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC) We certainly could have her interact with the big cats, aliens, bugs, in a natural but possibly even humorous ways (not in the Dr. Doolittle or Eliza Doolittle [The Wild Thornberrys] way). We'd never try and stress girl-power or anything to that end, as it would only irrate boys. She'd just be a curious girl-next-door type. She wouldn't be nerdy or geeky, or too over eager. She wouldn't be girly, but not toy-boyish. She'd just be a generally likeable peer. And she could have friends that appear occasionally, that she met over the Internet. There's infinite possibilities. Also, should we break this off the main page, as it's rather besides the point of the magazine name. Kiki could appear in a magazine of any name at all. -- user:zanimum [ edit ] Race Theresa knott suggested Kiki be Hawaiian. While I like the fact there aren't any political or social grudges from any region against Hawaii, so much as I know. However, Hawaiian are unusual to draw; they can't have general cartoon eyes, as that removes the Polynesian heritage evidenced in their faces. But you can't give them eyes that easily, as they'd likely turn out as Oriental eyes. Any thoughts? -- user:zanimum Agree w/ Hawaiian. Fairly neutral, not often portrayed, and there is a good unbiased reason for it ( Wiki pedia -> Wiki wiki = Hawaiian for Fast-Fast). The actual drawing is but a minor detail. Yeah, I agree. Hawaiian fits pefectly, but i wonder how hard we will have to stop stereotypes from happening (grass skirt?). But i defidently agree with Hawaiian. -- Quadraxis 02:52, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC) [ edit ] Species I personaly think that an anthropomophic lizard/cat/alien/tiger/something not human, would be best. it would certainly appeal to me when i was a kid, more than a "boring" human. I personaly like the idea of a lizard, but maybe thats just me. The bellman 05:32, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC) She might be a little out of place, the only "furry" in watching an Aztec reinactment, whatever. Maybe leave it up to the first artist to establish it. I'm going to do a "casting call" on various major cartooning and animation boards, for designers to submit work in general as illustration, and possible Kiki designs. -- user:zanimum Also, it's not scientifically accurate to have talking animals. I would be in favor of an alien or computer/robot (foreign, accounts for NPOV, reasonably scientifically accurate) How about erwin (the mac cube) from userfriendly The bellman 02:06, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC) Could you point out a specific comic? And, if I know what you're talking about, I don't think many kids would know what a 1980s Apple Macintosh looked like. -- user:zanimum Um... Erwin's an SGI O2. He hates Macs. 82.138.216.118 17:47, 26 November 2005 (UTC) [ edit ] Is Kiki age appropriate? I have an intelligent 12-year old brother, and I am certain a Dora the Explorer-esque character or a talking animal would be extremely demeaning to smart kids of his age group. Why can't this project appeal to intelligent kids, as opposed to catering to the LCD? Andrevan 14:59, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC) She's more Mary Jane than Dora. I wish Dora was never brought up. One is a procedural show, this is more The Wild Thornberries meets Indiana Jones. It's just every few pages she appears for a half page segment, total of five maybe. -- user:zanimum If we're really aiming for a neutral-gender age 7-12 demographic, I think an exploring girl a la Eliza Thornberry or whoever you want to compare her to is not going to work - the concept is too patronizing and "kiddie." – Andre ( talk ) 21:34, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC) could i just add here that 7-12 is a massive demographic (a twelve year old is almost double that of a seven year old, and could often be in first year high school (in the aussie system at least)). IMHO we should be aiming for 9/10 year olds, while trying to make sure that we dont have anything so daggy that a 12 year old is gonna be completely turned off, or so high-fulutin' that a seven year old gets confused/bored. Also different cultures mature at different rates (i cite the movie city of god as a good a proof as any) The bellman 00:08, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC) Actually, the grant was for 8-11 year olds, but things got widened somewhere along the way. -- user:zanimum Agreed, having a cartoon character makes it seem cheesy and tilts it toward the littler side of the scale (full disclosure, I'm 15). That said, if used in moderation it wouldn't be so bad. Perhaps use her for intros to each major section and the book itself. Overuse of Kiki will make the books seem kiddie. If time and resources permit, selecting a few candidates and ask the real kids would be nice. I am still confused about the project's scope, but is this possibly or definitely international and multilingual publication? Tomos 11:00, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC) Yes, this is definetly international and multilingual. It's just taking long to get off the runway than expected. -- user:zanimum Actual children commenting: All of the kids here right now agree that it has to be someone smart, a smart character like "a scientist or a genius or a professor". (age 5,6,7,7,7,8,,11,12, and one 14 year old that says her vote shouldn't count) that's 8 kids that read all of this page, so they are kinda smart kids, one of them wanted to know what a demographic was, and there was some misunderstanding there, 2 of the kids thought it meant "the sample for the picture of the character" the others that knew said it was "what group of kids are supposed to read it" the kids are talking about what kind of scientist, seem to have reached the consensus that a good scientist would "know all different science stuff"... (so my personal thought is maybe she looks a little different in each segment, like with a microscope in one scene, test-tube in another, telescope as an astronomer, space suit for outer space , brushes and trowel for archaeology, etc.) (ok, none of the kids knew why a brush and trowel are for archaeology, they are reading over my shoulder.) Gonna let the kids get back to the computers... Pedant 19:58, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC) So basically, they're fine with the general concept of having a smart cartoon character in the magazine? I've got a slight revision to Kiki here, if you mind running this by them: Kiki is a smart and curious, and in each issue, she asks some of the questions in the book to an "expert", who tells her more about the subject. This change to her is so that she's smart, but she isn't a know-it-all, and with experts in it, we can maybe even get interviews with real experts on the topic. Imagine being able to interview Jane Goodall, and have her appear in a cartoon form? Anyway, enough excitement for me. I can maybe throw the Kiki concept past my Dad's younger art students, see if they mind her. Glad to hear the kids Pedant asked think she's okay. -- user:zanimum or a cartoon hawking, or Lula, or Neil Armstrong or or... the mind boggles. The bellman 01:58, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC) You know, I bet we could even convince Hawking's people (I'm sure he's got agents and stuff) to let us include him as a character, and interview him for real. He's appeared on Star Trek: TNG, why not this Wikijunior project? And, NASA's always looking for free PR. Why not? We could even get interviews with Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva and Lucio Gutiérrez about their jobs running Brazil and Ecuador, and have cartoon world leaders. -- user:zanimum This is IMO a very good idea - a leap from demeaning talking animals to our hawaiian friend interviewing real people for the magazine - maybe the grown-ups will be taking a peek at this... Ludraman - talk to me! 23:15, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC) Maybe have her curiosity lead her to a possible answer of a question presented by the information on the same page . This answer could be based on a basic version of the scientific method - which while plausible is incorrect. A scientist (or a friend of similar age) can them point out a problem with her reasoning, which leads them to a better answer; all of this on the same page . A scientist could point out how "obvious" ideas in the past turned out to be wrong after reviewing new evidence. She should of course not be made fun of for making a mistake in her reasoning, but encouraged to be sceptical and to "throw away" ideas that are shown to be incorrect. I don't know if this is too difficult, or too dull an approach for 8-11 year olds. Instead of always rewriting, we could use some questions kids ask after reading drafts and their ideas of what the answers are. We could also leave some questions unanswered, but point them to possible sources or ways to find out with a safe experiment. — Jeandré , 2005-03-19t13:20z I'm 15; a few years ago when I was in the target demographic, I would distrust books with cute annoying cartoon characters because they tend to cover up a lack of content. If it's a worthwhile source, and Kiki's humorous enough - not just bothersome "let's advertise to our mental picture of 'kids'" - then it might be acceptable. The cute character motif got trite by about 6. I know I'm above-average, but even considering that, don't expect a cartoon character to appeal to 10- and 11-year-olds just by being a cartoon character. Geoffrey 00:49, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC) Agreed completely. – Andre ( talk ) 18:24, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC) Yes, cartoons can be used to cover up a lack of content. But if handled right, they can illuminate concepts. I remember a grade 10 science text book. It had interviews with scientists that related to the study units. Frankly, you only saw them dorkily staring into the camera, as they told you about their jobs. I personally would have liked to seen what their work environment was like; hearing about the an observatory is one think, seeing it is another. This bridges that gap. We can show simplified visuals of the tools astronomers work with, and what they do. This isn't to say we can't also show photos, just that we have the option. -- user:zanimum Same here. Think "Clippy" from Microsoft Office and you've got how children view cartoon characters in text books. BiomechZero I, being 15 as well, disagree somewhat. Cartoon characters can be good if they are done well, and aren't demeaning to kids. The character can't be to much below them, and it helps if the character doesn't break the "fourth wall". I used to read the OWL Magazine, while i was 10-12, and the Mighty Mites (sciency cartoon characters that had a cartoon strip that helped kids learn about a topic, and would sometimes appear on other pages of the magazine) weren't demeaning, at least to me. In fact, they were the parts of the magazine i looked forewards the most to each month. I think that if it was well done, and had input from kids across the demographic, then it might be possible to create an interesting Kiki that won't be demeaning to kids. -- Quadraxis 03:19, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC) Ok, Lisa is here, she says she'll work on the project if I help her type, because as she says "I can think really fast but I can't type fast." I think she'll be one of the kids that decides to sign up for wikipedia accounts, after tha parents get a look at the project. Lisa is '10 and a half' and says Geoffrey is right, "just because it's a cartoon doesn't mean it can make kids interested in it" She says "kids are interested in everything! That's why we're kids!" ... "If she (Kiki) is really smart and really a kid, she would know what questions a kid would ask a scientist or expert" (I think that this might be a key point) "if a scientist is really good at teaching stuff, he knows how to explain it good enough for kids to understand, and she should be a kid that picks scientists who know how to teach, not just bla bla bla bla at kids"..."but not talk to us like we're dumb because we are kids" (she just mentioned that this seems like it's a project made by adults and that she doesn't think they will really listen to 'kids' ideas.) We're going to kick this idea around with the other kids, and write more later, when they are all here. For what it's worth, the students are at my house on most Tuesdays, as a big group, and on a few other days during the week depending on their school schedule. Only one of the children has ever attended school, so this might not be the most ideal focus group to depend on... more later this afternoon or evening Pedant 18:42, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC) Yeah, lets get some kids in here when we have some stuff, and let's "listen to 'kids' ideas"! I'll see if i can get my hands on some kids who would be interested. -- Quadraxis 03:19, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC) I don't think a single human character is the best idea- if they're a girl, then that might turn off male readers, while a boy is politically incorrect. I'd suggest: -have a boy and girl as recurring charactors or -have the charactor be of a nonexistant species (robot, ghost, AI, amorphous blob, etc.) Just my $0.02. -128 My two one-hundreths of a dollor, this might be a way to have someone/thing/s known to the readers lead in and out. 1 page of "Kiki" at the front as an intro to the topic (like, in one about astronomy she could say a little thing about distances or something?) and maybe an interviewer. the hardest part would be keeping personality strait, as this is writen in a wiki... (i am slow today, i just notaced Wiki is one letter off from Kiki!) -- KinkoBlast 00:16, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC) I suggest making it so that the Kiki appears on the first and last page. The first page as a bit of an intro, and then on the last page as an interview with a real scientist, maybe?-- Quadraxis 03:19, 1 Jul 2005 (UTC) Tossing in my cents - Kiki needs character. I'm weel past the demografic here, but I remember usually detesting the explanatory cartoon characters, unless they were interesting in themselves - only example I can think off is that show with the school bus that would go everywhere. If Kiki were a toally dull, stereotypical character, I think everyone will be heartily sick of her quite soon. Some humor, personality, eccentricity, etc, might help alleviate that. Otherwise, the concept as it's been developes so far sounds great. 80.178.83.109 07:02, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC) [ edit ] Kiki is a nude model The kids just showed me the [ article about Alice Prin on the english wikipedia, which they found by typing Kiki into the search box. Apparently she was a 14 year old nude model, and famous for being photographed by Man Ray, etc... I'm wondering if "Kiki" is an appropriate name after all? User:Pedant Oh, that's not great. I liked the name Kiki, but we should maybe look for something else. -- user:zanimum Umm... thats not good. At the very least, we have to delete that redirect. It would solve the problem of turning off boys though... Err, bad idea! -- KinkoBlast 00:06, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC) Kiki is a totally normal girls name in Germany. But the word can also mean "fun stuff". So, this would be a great name. -- 80.171.72.182 12:43, 11 November 2005 (UTC) [ edit ] How about Niki? Is that an okay name for an Hawaiian girl? [1] [2] — Jeandré , 2005-03-19t13:20z Anyone not in favour of "Niki", "Nikki", or "Nicki", say now or forever hold your peace. -- user:zanimum (I think those links refer to a Chinese woman, based on the last name. Really, anyone can be named anything in this day and age, so any name will go with any culture.) The first two hits for Nikki on Wikipedia search are Nikki Nova and Nikki Park, two adult film actresses. – Andre ( talk ) 23:19, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC) Gah! Is Niki okay then? They're going to have their own seperate encyclopedia, once we get the ball rolling. They'd know Nikki/Niki was fake, and not expect to find an encyclopedia article on her in the full adult Wikipedia. -- user:zanimum We can dig up dirt on any name. notthe9 00:23, 12 July 2005 (UTC) We can do it the other way, first search on Wikipedia for people good for children and whose name is not trademarked, and then we could choose a name for the girl. DrJones 09:46, 12 July 2005 (UTC) I think that whatever catchy-sounding kids name you come up with will already be taken by a porn star (they seem to pick their names by much the same characteristics). I really don't think Kiki's that bad. The Wikijunior readers are not going to throw themselves into a life of sin because a cartoon character from one of their educational books has the same name as an early 19th-century woman who did nude modeling for artists. No name is clear if that sort of thing is too much. Kiki is a great name, with a good meaning to boot. We shouldn't let one silly little reference to Parisian subculture get us down. Besides, if Kiki does become a cultural icon, she'll have a wikipedia article too. :) I did some sketches a couple of months ago. I'll see if I can find them and get them scanned. Risk 19:50, 17 August 2005 (UTC) In Spain, Kiki is one of the names of the vagina. That's why en:Kiki's Delivery Service was changed to Niki in the spanish version. So, I would say it is more than a silly reference to Parisian subculture. I was thinking more in Sarah (or Sally) as a more fitting name for the character. DrJones 10:05, 18 August 2005 (UTC) Ah, that's a bit more serious. We could choose one or two names and have every version (language/culture) of WikiJunior choose their prefered version. With our luck, Sarah will turn out to Russian for fecal matter. :) Risk 12:45, 18 August 2005 (UTC) No, Sarah's not fecal matter, just a street name for cocaine. The name Sally's short for Salvation Army, which could be associated with poorness, the modern stereotype of the Hawaiian is that they're poor. Also, to Sally is to make a sudden attack on an enemy from a defended position. Alternatively, it's also "To make a quick and witty statement or quip", which is actually quite cool. I think Risk's right, it would be easier to just alternate between two names. Every dubbed show does it, even Sesame Street . I'd hate to have to name a real-life baby, must be so stressful. -- user:zanimum How about Lola, Sandra, Reera, Ella or Faro. [ edit ] What about 2 characters? Probably going to cause more confusion than I would like, but if the idea of a Dora-type character being demeaning to older, smarter kids is a problem, how about one character aimed at pointing younger kids towards stuff of interest to them, and a slightly older kid pointing older/smarter kids at stuff which would be of use to them??? Laid out properly, that would prove to be a very useful little signposting tool for the readers. One of each sex, obviously, say Niki for the girl and something like Nolan for the boy. I will work on designs and post a couple up somewhere on here. Tmalmjursson 05:16, 15 January 2006 (UTC) Talk with me [ edit ] Kiki Designs Wikijunior/Kiki character/Designs -- SV Resolution 13:11, 29 August 2005 (UTC) Retrieved from " http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikijunior/Kiki_character " Category : Wikijunior Views content page Discussion Edit History Personal tools Log in / create account Navigation Main Page Goings-on Wikimedia News Recent changes Random page Help Donations Search Toolbox What links here Related changes Upload file Special pages Printable version Permalink This page was last modified 05:16, 15 January 2006. Content is available under GNU Free Documentation License . 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