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Nippers Table Talk Forum Nippers Table Talk Forum Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Active Polls | Members | Search | FAQ Username: Password: Save Password All Forums Enter Nipper's Table Talk Forum L&L Hawaiian New Topic Reply to Topic Page: 1 2 of 2 Author Topic Tinchef Starting Member 25 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 12:16:37 PM Can anyone report on the new L & L Hawaiian BBQ that just opened in Goleta? Do they have musubi? Previously had to go to LA for Hawaiian BBQ (Kahuna Grill is good but it's not the "Hawaiian style" as I know it!) Edited by - tinchef on 01/10/2006 12:47:59 PM Zachary Bon Vivant 628 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 12:25:44 PM You know what? I'm going to go there right now and get back to you. Zachary Bon Vivant 628 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 1:52:51 PM Yes, they do have Musubi. And I'm going to have to mull over my report. L&L is a chain, with about 100 links on the mainland. Remember what "the Insider" said about the reason for some local restaurant's success? The reason that places like Bouchon, Ca Dario, Luckys, Miro, and Opal have maintained that expected level of excellence to cost ratio is because they follow the key ingredients of fine dining. The perfect staff (I use the term loosely) excels in knowledge, attention to details, personality, patience and have the powers of assessment. The perfect management/ownership (again on the loose side) display trust, have strict training requirements, must be available to staff and customer alike and remain consistent. Managers/owners are like parents, coaches, and in their own way, gods. This is the "success formula" from the L&L website: The owners attribute their success to a decentralized system of ownership in which each restaurant is a separately incorporated profit center run by partners in the corporation or individual owners. Quite a difference. Like I said, I'll get back to you shortly. Tinchef Starting Member 25 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 2:14:54 PM The other difference is that the aforementioned local places are "fine" dining establishments. L&L is basically "fast" food! Zachary Bon Vivant 628 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 2:28:24 PM quote: The other difference is that the aforementioned local places are "fine" dining establishments. L&L is basically "fast" food! Correction--"a separately incorporated profit center." I knew nothing about L&L when I drove out there. I secretly hoped that it would be a real bbq. It isn't. But it *is* good, at least what I had (combo #1 bbq mix plate). No underground pit, no whole pig, but it wasn't bad at all. More of a bbq sauce place than a bbq, since I didn't see anything resembling a bbq. Longer report to follow. gki Advanced Diner USA 75 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 3:25:34 PM L&L Hawaiian Barbecue The Plaza 7127 Hollister Ave., #21 Goleta, CA 93117 Phone: (805) 968-8880 Fax: (805) 968-8882 http://www.hawaiianbarbecue.com The Lau-Lau Plate is much more interesting than Musubi. Zachary Bon Vivant 628 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 3:49:16 PM While I'm mulling things over, I thought you might enjoy reading what a visitor to Las Conchas (on Haley) wrote defending the restaurant on another website. To some folks, the glass is always half full... And the transvestites dont even hangout infront of or inside the restruant anymore, and they are not aloud to sell themselves at the restruant or bother the custamers in any kind of way. But they are aloud to go in and eat there if they wanted to! Even so, I think I'll pass. Gary Chef 274 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 3:49:36 PM The Plaza, formerly the University Plaza. Don't bother. All fast food. The yuck quotient runs especially high there. Better to eat at Costco's. (Zachary, you just don't want to give anyone a chance.) Edited by - Gary on 01/10/2006 3:52:25 PM Zachary Bon Vivant 628 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 3:56:53 PM quote: (Zachary, you just don't want to give anyone a chance.) What?!? I hopped in the car and drove 12 miles within ten minutes of Tinchef asking abut L&L! That's giving them a pretty good chance.... Las Conchas is another story. Anyplace the transvestites aren't "aloud" to "sell themselves at the restruant or bother the custamers in any kind of way" sounds way too stuffy for me. Tinchef Starting Member 25 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 4:21:06 PM quote: L&L Hawaiian Barbecue The Plaza 7127 Hollister Ave., #21 Goleta, CA 93117 Phone: (805) 968-8880 Fax: (805) 968-8882 http://www.hawaiianbarbecue.com The Lau-Lau Plate is much more interesting than Musubi. You are correct. But for quick on the go food I prefer Musubi over hamburgers. Tinchef Starting Member 25 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 4:24:34 PM nice reply! wow, I didn't know I had that much influence ;-) quote: quote: (Zachary, you just don't want to give anyone a chance.) What?!? I hopped in the car and drove 12 miles within ten minutes of Tinchef asking abut L&L! That's giving them a pretty good chance.... Las Conchas is another story. Anyplace the transvestites aren't "aloud" to "sell themselves at the restruant or bother the custamers in any kind of way" sounds way too stuffy for me. Edited by - tinchef on 01/10/2006 4:26:13 PM Tinchef Starting Member 25 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 4:28:18 PM quote: Better to eat at Costco's. ( Do you mean the walking lunch inside or the standing in line lunch outside? ;-) Gary Chef 274 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 4:38:15 PM Zachary, you drove twelve miles in ten minutes to get to a Hawaiian BBQ place, according to your written testimony. Lets figure this. Sixty-five miles an hour x 12 = 920 multiplied by an anxiety factor of 1.61255 divided by 10 means you drove 96.4 miles an hour to get to a fast food restaurant that featured Hawaiian food that is barbequed but cant even be found in Hawaii. I rest my case. Zachary Bon Vivant 628 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 4:53:17 PM quote: Zachary, you drove twelve miles in ten minutes to get to a Hawaiian BBQ place, according to your written testimony. Lets figure this. Sixty-five miles an hour x 12 = 920 multiplied by an anxiety factor of 1.61255 divided by 10 means you drove 96.4 miles an hour to get to a fast food restaurant that featured Hawaiian food that is barbequed but cant even be found in Hawaii. I rest my case. Actually what I meant was Tinchef posted at 12:16:37 PM and I replied at 12:25:44 PM. Ten minutes after he asked, I was out the door. I drove like an old lady, which I generally do. Don't tell anyone. You're right, though; I shoulda gone to Costco. Edited by - Zachary on 01/10/2006 4:55:23 PM Gary Chef 274 Posts Posted - 01/10/2006 : 6:17:48 PM oh Tinchef Starting Member 25 Posts Posted - 01/11/2006 : 08:52:33 AM quote: quote: Zachary, you drove twelve miles in ten minutes to get to a Hawaiian BBQ place, according to your written testimony. Lets figure this. Sixty-five miles an hour x 12 = 920 multiplied by an anxiety factor of 1.61255 divided by 10 means you drove 96.4 miles an hour to get to a fast food restaurant that featured Hawaiian food that is barbequed but cant even be found in Hawaii. I rest my case. Actually what I meant was Tinchef posted at 12:16:37 PM and I replied at 12:25:44 PM. Ten minutes after he asked, I was out the door. I drove like an old lady, which I generally do. Don't tell anyone. You're right, though; I shoulda gone to Costco. Edited by - Zachary on 01/10/2006 4:55:23 PM Zachary, Sorry your experience wasn't what you thought it'd be. It is a very popular place in LA though. 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